What masochist thought captive rotors was a good idea?!

"DoubleClutchingAutomatic" (DoubleClutchingAutomatic) 07/31/2014 at 23:23 • Filed to: None

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It makes working on my Accord nearly impossible and incredibly expensive. It doesn't help that I bought my car from neglectful owners.
Seriously, what other car maker implemented captive rotors like this? It makes replacing the brakes needlessly complicated and potentially dangerous if you keep the same wheel bearing on with each disk change out. I heard that this supposedly makes the disk last longer, but I call serious bullshit.

I love my Accord, but I fucking hate those captive rotors. They are the bane of my existence.

Eric. > DoubleClutchingAutomatic 07/31/2014 at 23:26

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Gross. What year Accord is this? I was pretty annoyed when I realized there were screws holding the rotors on my 08 Si. I just drilled them out rather than spend needless hours whacking them with an impact driver.

EL_ULY > DoubleClutchingAutomatic 07/31/2014 at 23:28

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Not as uncommon as you think but yeah i guess it could of been more of a traditional set up. It's just nuts and bolts buddy, you got it

GhostZ > DoubleClutchingAutomatic 07/31/2014 at 23:28

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It was some financial adjuster who realized that this design forces drivers to trade up, or do dealer-certified maintenance, both of which put more money in the car company's pocket.

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > DoubleClutchingAutomatic 07/31/2014 at 23:29

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GM 6-lug 4WD front axles from the 80s have a self-locking hub that has to come apart first (absolutely horrible - easy to mix up or lose grip on clips), *then* the hub bearing, and *then* you have to separate the hub from the disc on the back with a press. Add to this that the rotor is way undersized on a four door cab or Suburban and needs frequent replacement...

HATE

DoYouEvenShift > DoubleClutchingAutomatic 07/31/2014 at 23:33

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Ha! Those are fun. I mostly see these on Japanese imports, but theyve gone away from that design. Slide hammer and swing away.

DoubleClutchingAutomatic > GhostZ 07/31/2014 at 23:36

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Must not have worked out well for them since they only did this from 90-97

DoubleClutchingAutomatic > Eric. 07/31/2014 at 23:37

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It's a '96 LX. It's a basket, but it's my basket. Nothing but love for the car... when it doesn't pull shit on me.

DoubleClutchingAutomatic > EL_ULY 07/31/2014 at 23:38

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You have to press out the wheel bearing to get the disk off. Then you run the risk of the bearing failing if you reuse the bearing. That and you need a press to get the damn thing off.

cbell04 > DoubleClutchingAutomatic 07/31/2014 at 23:38

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Offered to help a buddy do his 92 accord brakes. Nope not anything like the other 10-15 cars I had done and I didnt have time to learn new tricks. Felt bad but had him just throw pads on and deal.. (And for reference this was dawn of useful internet times so wasn't as easy to research the correct steps as these days would have been a trip to the library and several paid per page copies out of the Chilton's manual)

DoubleClutchingAutomatic > cbell04 07/31/2014 at 23:40

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Yeah, first time I bought my car, the disks were warped and junk. I figured, no problem, I'll get it off and get to work, I haven't forgotten my auto shop class.
Then I looked at the thing, realized I was in over my head and gave up.

2002camaroSS > DoubleClutchingAutomatic 08/01/2014 at 00:06

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Has anyone ever done brakes on a Toyota landcrusier or Lexus lx 4 something or other this accord and those toyota's get under your skin unless u have an on car lathe which we don't have at the shop so needless to say to do it the right way and make sure the customers is happy it takes more time that the flag rate I'm making I strongly dislike them

EL_ULY > DoubleClutchingAutomatic 08/01/2014 at 00:59

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yup yup, i've done maaany in my day. Mostly trucks. I take that time to repack the bearings with my grease press so they can last longer over regular hubs.

GhostZ > DoubleClutchingAutomatic 08/01/2014 at 01:35

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It was in vogue at the time.

McMike > DoubleClutchingAutomatic 08/01/2014 at 05:45

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My daily driver has captive rotors with bearings built into them. I hate it.

KyleN20 > DoubleClutchingAutomatic 08/01/2014 at 09:51

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was all excited to do my brake years back on my accord (93 coupe lx) went and bought the rotors and pads, lube ect. Looked at the rotors and thought.... humm this is weird the rotors have no "hat" to them... When I finally got it apart I cursed and then set about searching google and youtube for the solution. My quick fun brake job took 5-6 hours

WhoisTylerDurden > Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull 05/15/2017 at 01:27

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90's era Ram 3/4-tons were built the same way.